WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:06.830 : If this submarine should sink our destroyer, then what is our proposed reply? 00:09.600 --> 00:24.900 : Well, our destroyer, first will be moving around all the time and the submarine is going to be covered by our antisubmarine warefare patrols. Now, we have a signaling arrangement with that submarine to surface, which has been communicated I am told by to- 00:24.900 --> 00:26.900 : 00:27.007 --> 00:37.000 : Here is the exact situation. We have depth charges that have such a small charge that they can be dropped and they can actually hit the submarine, without damaging the submarine. 00:37.100 --> 00:38.900 : They're practice depth charges. 00:39.100 --> 00:42.800 : Practice depth charges. We propose to use those as warning depth charges. 00:42.850 --> 01:08.100 The message that Alex is talking about states that, when our forces come upon an unidentified submarine we will ask it to come to the surface for inspection by transmitting the following signals, using a depth charge of this type and also using certain sonar signals which they may not be able to accept and interpret. 01:08.160 --> 01:14.500 Therefore, it is the depth charge that is the warning notice and the instruction to surface. 01:14.599 --> 01:16.650 : 01:16.700 --> 01:17.342 : Kenny? 01:17.757 --> 01:19.697 : What if he doesn't surface, then it gets hot? 01:20.900 --> 01:30.631 : If he doesn't surface or if he takes some action-takes some action to assist the merchant ship, are we just going to attack him anyway? At what point are we going to attack him? 01:31.422 --> 01:37.757 I think we ought to wait on that today. We don't want to have the first thing we attack as a Soviet submarine. I'd much rather have a merchant ship. 01:37.800 --> 01:45.897 : Well, we won't get to that unless the submarine is really in a position to attack our ship in the course of an intercept. This is not pursuing [unclear] on the high seas. 01:47.689 --> 01:56.200 : I think it would be extremely dangerous, Mr. President, to try to defer attack on this submarine in the situation we're in. We could easily lose an American ship by that means. 01:57.700 --> 02:07.510 The range of our sonar in relation to the range of his torpedo, and the inaccuracy, as you well know of antisubmarine warfare is such that I don't have any- 02:08.100 --> 02:09.000 : [Unclear] imagine it would. 02:09.100 --> 02:18.800 : -great confidence that we can push him away from our ships and make the intercept securely. 02:19.330 --> 02:27.200 Particularly, I don't have confidence we could do that if we restrict the commander on the site in any way. I've looked into this in great detail last night because of your interest in the question. 02:27.201 --> 02:35.537 : Can you interpose the Soviet merchant vessel between the submarine and yourself? Or does he have torpedoes that can go around and come in from the other side? 02:35.600 --> 02:37.163 : He can maneuver anyway he wants to. 02:37.200 --> 02:41.000 : I know. But I mean, suppose that you have air observation, you keep the Soviet ship- 02:41.049 --> 02:41.481 : Right underneath. 02:41.900 --> 02:42.721 : I don't think- 02:44.000 --> 02:56.955 : What the plan is, Dean, is to send antisubmarine helicopters out to harass the submarine. And they have weapons and devices that can damage the submarine. 02:57.500 --> 03:06.560 And the plan, therefore, is to put pressure on the submarine, move it out of the area by that pressure, by the pressure of potential destruction, and then make the intercept. 03:07.083 --> 03:10.367 But this is only a plan and there are many, many uncertainties.